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Interview: Mixing it up

Steven Soper talks to Freya Mearns about interdisciplinary science and a little bit of luck

Steven SoperSteven Soper is the William L and Patricia Senn, Jr Professor in the department of chemistry at Louisiana State University. He is also a professor of mechanical engineering and an adjunct professor of biological sciences. His research interests include biomicro- and bionanoelectrochemical systems, single molecule detection, and new bioassay developments. He is on the editorial board of Analyst.

What inspired you to become a scientist?
None of my family went to college or expressed an inclination to participate in any science-related area. So, being a scientist was off base for my entire family and something they did not understand when I first mentioned my professional interests. When I was in high school, I started taking some biology and physics classes and a little bit of chemistry. It was my teachers that set me on the road toward being a scientist and I am grateful for their mentoring and guidance. Many of my undergraduate college professors were also very helpful and encouraging, in particular James Wood and Ted Kuwana.

"I have just been very lucky to have such an understanding and supportive wife!"
When I went to college, my first degree was in psychology - I planned to be a psychiatrist. Then I decided to go back and get a degree in chemistry because I really enjoyed it. Afterwards I went to work in a research laboratory at a local company in Kansas City, Missouri; I was intrigued by some of the problems we were working on, so I decided to go back and get my PhD so that I could more fully understand the underlying chemical phenomena. I was married with a baby and I announced to my wife, 'Guess what: I'm going to go back to graduate school and I'm going to make $800 a month.' Then, I was given the opportunity to do a post doctoral fellowship at Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico, under the direction of Richard Keller, who was doing single molecule detection. Los Alamos is a small isolated city in the mountains of New Mexico, but a great place to do some high-end science. This was a tremendous experience for me, because it gave me the opportunity to do single molecule work, which I am continuing today. After two years at Los Alamos, I decided to interview at a few universities with a view to becoming a college professor. After doing several interviews, I decided on Louisiana State University (LSU). There was never a concise plan - I just made all these decisions as I was moving along. I have just been very lucky to have such an understanding and supportive wife!

Why did you specialise in microfabricating devices for analysing biological molecules?
When I went to LSU in 1992 my intention was to do single molecule detection and ultrasensitive biological fluorescence measurements, especially related to genome analysis (I had done similar work at Los Alamos National Laboratory). But when I arrived, a new facility was opened: the Center for Advanced Microstructures and Devices. It's a synchrotron source where they do X-ray spectroscopy and X-ray lithography, but they also built a clean room to do micro- and nanofabrication. In 1993, when the first microchip electrophoresis paper by Andreas Manz and Jed Harrison appeared in Science, we merged the ideas in that paper with the resources at LSU to forge new ideas in developing microfluidic systems made from polymers. It was a little bit of luck that the resources became available just when the original paper came out.

What projects are you working on at the moment?
We've really spanned out into some intriguing areas. Our original concept was to do genome analysis and we're still doing that, but mostly for DNA sequencing applications. Now we have reached into areas that are still using genomes, but as biomarkers, for some really interesting applications. For example, we have projects in DNA forensics, looking at infectious diseases, and building point-of-care systems for developing and underdeveloped countries. We also have collaborations with people at various medical schools to do diagnostics for cancer-related diseases. We have a new project looking at building systems for doing drug discovery as well that was recently funded by the National Institutes of Health. The interesting aspect of this project is that now we are focused on merging our single molecule detection work with microfluidics and nanofluidics for compelling applications in biology and medicine.

What's going to be the next big thing in your field?

"Now the challenge is to develop integrated systems to carry out fully integrated assays"
People have worked extremely hard at developing microfluidic devices for specific tasks. Now the challenge, at least on the microfabrication side, is to develop integrated systems to carry out fully integrated assays. For example, we've been building devices that do solid phase extraction (to clean up samples), then the polymerase chain reaction (PCR), then a variety of devices on the back-end of the PCR step, for example electrophoresis, microarrays or some spectroscopy readout of PCR reactions. The idea is to build autonomous systems using all of these devices. So the next big challenge will be process integration. The other big project area is nanofabrication - building structures in the nanometre regime. People are starting to get a fairly good grasp on understanding the physics of what happens when you put biomolecules into confined environments that rival their molecular dimensions. Now the challenge is to take those unique opportunities evolving with nanofabrication capabilities and merge them with microfabrication to build logical interfaces between the macro, micro and nano worlds.

What is the secret to being a successful scientist?
I don't care what type of science you do, it's your students that are important - if they don't produce, you are dead in the water. If it was up to me to do all the experiments, I might publish one or two papers a year (if I was lucky). You need a great crop of students who are motivated, creative and intelligent. If students have those attributes, they're going to be successful, your group is going to be successful and you are going to be successful! Students drive the research productivity machinery. I also have a great group of colleagues in areas outside of my expertise that have been instrumental in our research efforts: in mechanical engineering, biological sciences and materials science.

Have your students and post docs primarily trained in chemistry or is there a real mix of backgrounds?
The majority of people coming into my lab do have a chemistry background but when they leave they have fairly good knowledge in biology and engineering as well. Nowadays chemists cannot afford to know only chemistry, especially analytical chemists. When they start working in my group, my students (and even postdocs) will take a class in biology to learn about clinical chemistry and DNA structure, and a class in engineering to learn about lithography (both micro- and nanofabrication techniques) and fluid dynamics. They also learn how to do computational simulations to help guide experimentation. We do a lot of simulations to help guide design before we go into the lab and start building something. That's really helped our productivity immensely.

Are the lines between the traditional sciences blurring now? Is it becoming easier to communicate?
No. Communication across disciplines that haven't been heavily engaged in cross-fertilisation is very difficult to come by. I have been working with people in mechanical engineering for over 10 years and it is only within the last two or three years that we have broken down some of the communication barriers. My students learn their jargon, their students learn chemistry jargon and we now know how to communicate. But these things take time. I still think this is a big problem. Everybody says, 'We're doing interdisciplinary science,' (which everyone should be doing) but I would argue that the only time you can really claim this is when you have joint publications and when your students are conversing with people outside chemistry on a regular basis. That's a great sign of interdisciplinary science.

If you weren't a scientist, what would you be?
This is going to sound mushy, but I couldn't really envision doing anything else. I just love what I do!

Related Links

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